never really get burnt out on one as fast

Wii = goodish fun on mario kart

PS3 = better than alll the rest combined

Noone forces you, but many people dont know otherwise, were lucky here in Europe, but over seas the Media is in Control and Microsoft has alot of power over the media, so they know nothing of the PS3.

Ok not knowing anything about PS3? That's exaggerated a bit But nonetheless M$ is keeping their dirty hands on media, advertisements all the time and shit. But that's marketing and that's exactly what Sony is missing

See, that again for me isnt entirely true, I thought Windows was the only OS untill about the age of 12 - 13 when I got into computers, many people still have not heard of mac computers nevermind linux.

Ok but at that age it's more to your parents to choose. And yet again that's about marketing. I've never ever seen Mac ad in TV but plenty of M$ ad's and x360 ad's

Ohh and maybe one or two ps3

Linux is out of questions as it's completely free.

Another thing is piracy. Windows is easily pirated, and mac is working almost only on designed pc/laptops although it's changing since they implemented Intel machines. (before they had motorola processors)

@DumaSerap:

It's the same with x360 and ps3 nobody forces you too buy either. You always have a choice.

Noone forces you, but many people dont know otherwise, were lucky here in Europe, but over seas the Media is in Control and Microsoft has alot of power over the media, so they know nothing of the PS3.

@DumaSerap:

Windows is not forced on you. You always have a choice between Windows, Linux which is free or Mac. I've chosen mac and you know what ? I have no need for windows never had.

See, that again for me isnt entirely true, I thought Windows was the only OS untill about the age of 12 - 13 when I got into computers, many people still have not heard of mac computers nevermind linux.

@DumaSerap:

Well germany is pretty funny country, average salary is 800-1000€ as everyone is driving brand new BMW or Porshe. Seriously.. xD

Haha, yes It is, Ive heard of that ^_^

And theres people who cannot afford British airways flights and people who can, if everyone is as who you say british airways would be bust now, so some people must enjoy quality.

I never said there are no people who enjoy spending more money on flights. I fly with other airlines as well although i have free tickets with Ryanair. It's the same with x360 and ps3 nobody forces you too buy either. You always have a choice.

Windows isnt cheap, but its forced on you, I dont know ANYONE who has gone out and bought windows for then £100+ that it is to buy, people either get it already or download it.

Windows is not forced on you. You always have a choice between Windows, Linux which is free or Mac. I've chosen mac and you know what ? I have no need for windows never had.

You have practically admited that PS3 is a "Better Console", its done good because anything else would by lying, if you can compare Everything from 360 - PS3 the playstation will shine in all Areas apart from live, thats because there no charging £40 a year for you to use your own internet.

I've never said ps3 is worse console. I sold x360 over ps3.

This quote is pretty fun because PS3 outsells xbox in germany, and its a MUCH higher price.

Well germany is pretty funny country, average salary is 800-1000€ as everyone is driving brand new BMW or Porshe. Seriously.. xD

Ok soo You have the money to buy the best quality, i have the money to buy it, but lot's of people don't. I don't know about UK or US but in germany you can get x360 for 150€ brand new with game, and ps3 is around 400€ plus one game. That's not 50£ but a bit more. Some people don't want to put so much money in entertainment so they choose something cheaper.
I don't know how much money ur getting in your job but make a note that not everyone can get everything that's the best out there.

This quote is pretty fun because PS3 outsells xbox in germany, and its a MUCH higher price.

@DumaSerap:

That's called marketing, it doesn't matter if they talk good or bad as long as they talk.
I work in a company like that. Ryanair everyone knows it, people either love us or hates us, and you know what ? Nobody gives a shit cause people still fly with us. Why? Cause it's cheap, it doesn't matter that you have to pay lots of cash for bags or check in or other shit, it doesn't matter that you even have to pay for water on board, and some crew treat you like shit. People fly cause it's cheap and they don't want to pay 300€ for flight with British Airways or Lufthansa but they pay 30€ for flight with us.
It's the same with Windows, Xbox 360 and whole Microsoft, there are so many bad things about this company and still 80% of people have Windows at home, they have so many x360 and other stuff. It's all about marketing and the rest comes after.

Windows isnt cheap, but its forced on you, I dont know ANYONE who has gone out and bought windows for then £100+ that it is to buy, people either get it already or download it.

And theres people who cannot afford British airways flights and people who can, if everyone is as who you say british airways would be bust now, so some people must enjoy quality.

You have practically admited that PS3 is a "Better Console", its done good because anything else would by lying, if you can compare Everything from 360 - PS3 the playstation will shine in all Areas apart from live, thats because there no charging £40 a year for you to use your own internet.

no,i choose things that are the best quality.
I;m not going to settle for a toaster made out of cardboard just because its £50 cheaper than the chrome one.

Ok soo You have the money to buy the best quality, i have the money to buy it, but lot's of people don't. I don't know about UK or US but in germany you can get x360 for 150€ brand new with game, and ps3 is around 400€ plus one game. That's not 50£ but a bit more. Some people don't want to put so much money in entertainment so they choose something cheaper.
I don't know how much money ur getting in your job but make a note that not everyone can get everything that's the best out there.

so true my buddy bought a ps3 plugged it into a bad socket fried the machine. so he had the socket fixed and bought a xbox because "that is the system everyone talks about or has!!" so stupid

That's called marketing, it doesn't matter if they talk good or bad as long as they talk.
I work in a company like that. Ryanair everyone knows it, people either love us or hates us, and you know what ? Nobody gives a shit cause people still fly with us. Why? Cause it's cheap, it doesn't matter that you have to pay lots of cash for bags or check in or other shit, it doesn't matter that you even have to pay for water on board, and some crew treat you like shit. People fly cause it's cheap and they don't want to pay 300€ for flight with British Airways or Lufthansa but they pay 30€ for flight with us.
It's the same with Windows, Xbox 360 and whole Microsoft, there are so many bad things about this company and still 80% of people have Windows at home, they have so many x360 and other stuff. It's all about marketing and the rest comes after.

Also, Id just like to ask people where these sales numbers are coming from?

The ONLY play where the Xbox sells well is USA.

USA:

• Wii
• Xbox
• PS3

JAP:

• PS3 (1st place last 2 months, uesd to be 2nd)
• Wii
• Xbox (Always been last place in Japan except 2 months last year here it took 2nd.)

EU:

• Wii
• PS3 (PS3 is always 2nd Europe, only country its not is UK…)
• Xbox

We are surrounded by American media telling us that Xbox is the best here in UK because we Bum USA.

In the USA is rare that people have Ps3s because there media rams Microsoft down there throat, its a shame really.

oh and Japan wont like buying Cheap trash, Honur ect too

And your Warped sales numbers are also not taking into account that Xbox had a 1 year headstart, and yet its still being outsolf in Europe and Japan.

gf.

so true my buddy bought a ps3 plugged it into a bad socket fried the machine. so he had the socket fixed and bought a xbox because "that is the system everyone talks about or has!!" so stupid

And saying there is no gameplay ? WTF ? GoW doesnt have gameplay ? Mass Effect ? Fable ? Or maybe Fallout 3 + DLC ? Or addon to GTA4 ? Bioshock ? Should i write more ?

I didn't say there was no gameplay.
Wtf.
get a grip.

Yeah the world is ruled by money,i know my shit.
But good sales,does not constitute for good gameplay and my enjoyment.

Sales matter,to whom?

Sales matter to people who make a living off of this shit.

and and and

great salesmen and corprate junk does not make for good gameplay.

It doesn't have to. What counts are sales. Whole world is ruled by money, and sales = money.
And saying there is no gameplay ? WTF ? GoW doesnt have gameplay ? Mass Effect ? Fable ? Or maybe Fallout 3 + DLC ? Or addon to GTA4 ? Bioshock ? Should i write more ?

Ohhh and humans are not retards. When you go to do some shopping do You always choose things that are more expensive ? If yes then wow i would like to have where from do you get all the money all the time.

LOL shame xbox boys

Thats the kind of ignorant comments you should shy away from.

LOLZOR

Its cool,its good to have varied gameplay.

You have some games i'd like to play like fable 2 and gow2.

I s'pose but i only bought the xbox to play gow and gow2 ;o there like, my favourite games. No matter how many times i complete them i just can't stop playing

Sneaky lil' #$%*&

When Microsoft announced they were extending their warranty for Xbox 360s that received a E74 error, I was curious how different the code was from the red ring of death. Not very, it turns out.

I contacted the company earlier this week to find out what a E74 code meant and whether it was possibly just a rebranded red ring of death.

Here's what they told me:

Once a repair is made and a person gets their 360 back, does the clock reset for the extended warranty in regards to this error?
No. The same terms of the three-year warranty associated with three flashing red lights error apply.

We reported in 2007 that Microsoft was reworking their 360s to no longer give the red rings to report certain errors because people were sometimes misconstruing them. Is that the case?
No, that is not accurate.

Can a 360 still get a red ring error, aka the red ring of death?
Yes, the three flashing red lights error message can still be present on the console in the event of certain general hardware failures. We have made improvements to the console that will reduce the likelihood of an occurrence of this issue. The majority of customers who own Xbox 360 consoles have a terrific experience from their first day, and continue to, day in and day out.

Is the e74 code a replacement for the red ring of death?
No. The E74 error message can indicate the general hardware failure that is associated with three flashing red lights error on the console. This issue remains relatively narrow in scope and a very small percentage of our customers have contacted us about this issue. Again, we have already made improvements to the console that will reduce the likelihood of an occurrence of this issue.

But wait. What's with the contradiction? How can an E74 error message apply to the same hardware failures that are associated with a red ring if they're not the same?

"In some cases there is no difference. As we said, the E74 error message and three flashing red lights can in some cases indicate the same general hardware failure. However, it is not the same failure mode in all cases and there is no single root cause for these malfunctions."

So it sounds like there is an overlap between hardware issues that cause the E74 message and hardware issues that cause the red ring of death.